Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:46:23 GMT

Well, I have continued to hold off on the ultrasound because she went into shed. The good news is that she shed last night and looks 110% better since her last stuck shed. She seems much happier and actually looked like she wanted a meal. I'm going to give her a try tonight on food. She's looking very much like her normal self again. I'm going to talk it over with my vet on Monday and I'll let you know how it goes if I go in for the ultrasound. So, no eggs but it looks...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (hylarls) — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:10:13 GMT

Any News Kim?

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (greg stephens2) — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:43:33 GMT

Kim,
Sorry I did not respond very quickly I would go with the ultra sound.
It will at least answer the question of whether she has eggs inside or is empty.
Best of luck with her!
Please keep us posted!

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:10:38 GMT

Still nothing from Sissy, however, she's come out of the nest box and has perched again. She's no longer basking or acting gravid. My plan: Soak her for several hours again because the shed is looking dry and completely disinfect her cage. I'm wondering if smell as well as screwed up hormones is causing her to continue to act gravid. I removed her nest box and I've palpated her yet again and I've felt nothing. I unexpectedly had to leave town this week and wasn't...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (aaron florian) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:37 GMT

I don't recall the times and such, she'd be off feed for a couple/few months, and then bam! right back on like she never stopped.

She never had a full blown ovulation like I like to see, so she might have some issue with not being able to fertilize the follicles and shell them into ova or however that whole step works. She's frustrating, but Marc Spataro's got her now, and she's going through all of this again. I'm hoping the car ride over there shook her...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:22:42 GMT

Interesting! I do recall you talking about this with Minnie. Do you think that she actually went through ovulation and then reabsorbed the ova? How long did she go on thinking she was pregnant (ie. basking and not eating)? I'll give Sissy a try feeding this weekend but I'm expecting another grumpy hiss and a turn away.

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (aaron florian) — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:26:28 GMT

I have had no less than 3 false pregnancies with Minnie.

I wish I were better organized, I have photos of how blue she turned, and then six months later, how green she was, and she has never laid for me.

I got her in 2002 I think it was, and every year outside of the first she did this.

Feb 2004

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:27:23 GMT

Nothing!

A few days ago I put her high perch back in her cage but she opted not to come out of her nest box. I took her out and checked on her yesterday and she still seems fine. She didn't go back into her box when I replaced her back in the cage but she's now basking again and hasn't returned to the nest box. I left it with my vet that I'd give her until the end of the month and we'd come in for an ultrasound.

Ever heard of a false pregnancy in...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (RCulver) — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:16:09 GMT

Well........? yes?

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Cathy Maynard) — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:53:13 GMT

Kim, I'm watching this thread too.... I wish I had enough experience to add something helpful but am taking your experience as a learning one for me too.

All I can say is she sure looks gravid to me too!! Surely something is going on in there, I hope the next thing we here as that she drops a beautiful clutch of pearly whites for you!!

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Mike E Lockwood) — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:39:08 GMT

Kim, I've been following this post and thought I'd chime in. I have one of Sissy's daughters and she has me just as confused as her mother has you. She looks very similar to Sissy at this point. Just not quite as blue. We're not at a pre-lay shed yet though. I wish you the best with her. Hopefully you'll be posting the positive resolution soon:)

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:48:07 GMT

I had images of eggs being dropped from her high perch this weekend so I removed her perches on Monday. She immediately went into the nest box and stayed there until yesterday morning. She came out, looked around, and went back inside. This morning I found her trying to coil up on the light fixture wire she managed to dislodge. I'm not sure that this is pre-lay restlessness but the desire to perch rather than coil on the floor. I still have my fingers crossed because we could still...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:21:18 GMT

I wasn't able to get the shed off of her but the vet did agree that she had retained it. He didn't think it would be that big of a deal if it didn't come off until after she laid. I think it's pretty well stuck and she could use a 24 hr or longer soak because only soaking for a few hours at a time hasn't helped. With a lay date coming up soon, I'm not comfortable leaving her overnight to soak.

Last time I bred her, she laid 16 days post-shed. If she...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (greg stephens2) — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:39 GMT

Kim Burge wrote:
Greg,

Here's that updated picture you wanted to see from the front angle:

Sissy basking this morning.

She tagged along with me yesterday to the vet and was palpated by several people and we all concluded that we didn't feel anything. We made the decision to...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (RCulver) — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:45:06 GMT

Kim--
I have always gone by the assumption that during ovulation, ova are being released and then are fertilized and shelled during the 24 to 48 hour event. But then I have heard a number of assumptions on the topic, but have yet to read or see any conclusive study on it. Here's a bit of food for thought---I had one of my females that still looked plump after laying and I was worried about egg retention so I brought her in for an ultra sound.....what they isolated as the bulge was a...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:12:05 GMT

Greg,

Here's that updated picture you wanted to see from the front angle:

Sissy basking this morning.

She tagged along with me yesterday to the vet and was palpated by several people and we all concluded that we didn't feel anything. We made the decision to hold off on ultrasound for another two weeks. If she starts to look distressed or hasn't...

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (RCulver) — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:17:17 GMT

Kim--
I'm glad that it seems as if Sissy just has a retained shed! That is promising news. And I'm sorry if I influenced a sleepless night for you. I apologize for that. Keep us posted and I wish you and Sissy the best!

Rich

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:58:27 GMT

I guess if there's ever a good time to hear about a stuck shed, this would be it! I soaked her for a few hours last night in a heated Rubbermaid. Because I'm iffy about her laying date, I only kept her in the container a few hours when I could watch her. I will probably do the same tonight for a few hours. Thankfully, she's such a mellow girl that this doesn't seem to bother her....

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (hylarls) — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:07:55 GMT

Kim, that is great news about the stuck shed. It sounds like she is right on target. I have had more stuck sheds in the last couple of months than I can ever remember even from animals that never have a problem. Could you soak her in a container that would fit in her enclosure so she would stay warm and keep a close eye on her? I wouldn't worry as much about the stuck shed as wether she is hydrated. Keep us posted.

Re: Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:21:08 GMT

Sissy only gets fed one sm/med rat once a month and typically defecates before she eats again. The last time I fed her and she ate eagerly was 10/24/07. Just like last time around with breeding when I went to feed her on 11/18, she struck and seemed interested but never would take it. I don't think she'd decided to go off food long before this date. She tapered off of food like this last time, too. All the following attempts to feed her have resulted in hisses and zero interest....

Input, please. My own confusing female!

feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:14:28 GMT

For those of your who have experienced re-absorption of follicles prior to ovulation, how long does it typically take for a female to go back to her normal self? My big girl, Sissy, has me completely stumped and a little worried. I was estimating that an ovulation should have happened by the week of Christmas. Of course, I was away and IF she ovulated during that time I wasn't here to see it. She should have gone into a pre-lay shed about two weeks ago and didn't. Males have zero...