"Freeky" http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/2036/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:06:52 GMT Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:53:14 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/2036/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7643/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7643 feeds@yuku.com (frank plante) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7643 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:53:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7642/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7642
About the defects, the concensus is that these abnormalities were caused by environmental rather than... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (web wheeler) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7642 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:34:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7641/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7641 feeds@yuku.com (frank plante) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7641 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:28:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7640/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7640 normally that is the case but it is not something I would call rare either. All males have small concentrations of impaired sperm mixed within the healthy populations. In the case of humans we usually only have one baby but snakes have large clutches, which statistically increases the chances of these things to occur. When combined all of the factors that contribute to successfully producing GTPS it is probably not all that rare. The majority of the cases I... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (geckos70) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7640 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:09:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7639/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7639
Still Debatable,
Larry in NYC



]]> feeds@yuku.com (mrldshore) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7639 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:50:21 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7638/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7638 that is certainly a convincing argument in addition, I would not rule out the possibility that the male could have been exposed to high temps which may have damaged his heat sensitive sperm. I have seen abnormal sperm under the microscope and it is not uncommon for there to be abnormal sperm mixed with healthy sperm they are usually in very low concentrations and are expected in the process of selection to not make it to the ova. But, in an animal that has been... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (geckos70) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7638 Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:38:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7637/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7637
I did have an incandescent light/heat source directly above the perch that the Chondros use for basking. Of course the perch is long enough to allow for some thermal variation, depending on how and where, on the perch, the snake basks.

I did change the light bulbs before breeding this year, and I noticed that, even though I used the same brand (Sylvania 40 watt 6,000 hour long life), the configuration of the filament in the new... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (web wheeler) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7637 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:11:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7636/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7636
Here are some of my thoughts. The eye of the embryo begins well before oviposition. For reason of eye and spinal deformity I might consider sudden upward temperature or even excessively high temperature near time of fertilization and shortly into development. If a gravid snake is coiled on a perch with a heat lamp just above, only a portion of the eggs will be exposed to the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (greg schroeder) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7636 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:50:30 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7635/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7635
I do know that I'm going to keep one of the Chondros with no eyes myself - just as a "pet".

I agree with one of the previous posters that the problems I had probably occurred early in the gestation or incubation process. Does anyone know at what stage, in the early development of GTP eggs, the eyes and spinal cord begin to develop?

I would... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (web wheeler) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7635 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:43:36 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7634/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7634 :) ...I would email... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Max Moro) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7634 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:42:53 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7633/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7633
Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com
Chondrolicious





]]> feeds@yuku.com (Marcial) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7633 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:00:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7632/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7632 I wouldn't want to prove it but rather disprove it , but that would require breeding for a trait no would would truly want to propogate.

I mean I recall albino boas with "screwy eye conditions. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tupperwarezoo) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7632 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:54:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7631/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7631
Very curious. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Julian Garcia) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7631 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:04:30 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7630/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7630 but after reading thats its not genetic i guess i wouldn't care either way... its going to be stunning as an adult either way...

marcial how big is your now??? pic??

Shiloh
As Archimedes said when he discovered the principal of displacement.... Eureka!
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Shiloh Hawkesworth) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7630 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7629/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7629 Marcial Mendez
marcialmendez@hotmail.com
Chondrolicious





]]> feeds@yuku.com (Marcial) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7629 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:46:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7628/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7628 feeds@yuku.com (sbcbig1) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7628 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:27:35 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/7627/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html#reply-7627 i hear they did an awesome talk at the symposium last febuary about heat pits... they had a burmese with no eyes and they did alot of cool tested to show how alert he was... unles you want to keep them i would suggest trying to figure out who was doing that talk and see if he woudl like them... i think its kinda cool in a weird... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Shiloh Hawkesworth) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/7627 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:33:47 GMT <![CDATA[ "Freeky" ]]> http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/2036/t/-quot-Freeky-quot-.html
Here is a link to my website with incubation details and more... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (web wheeler) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/2036 Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:06:52 GMT