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Does anyone have any proof the farmed indonesian GTP's are farmed or are they the result of garvid females being caught in the wild etc?

The large number of juvenille and adult farmed GTP's which have been offered in the UK and Europe appear to me to be wild caught and licensed as farmed!

Unless a supplier can prove otherwise I'll alway think indonesian stock is wild and illegal.....I konw we have all seen photo's of outdoor vivs... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (slippery42) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6835 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:28:34 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6834/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6834
How to tell was already answered.

Not much to add to what is above. Sometimes there are markings as was mentioned-scars.

The allometry of the animal sometimes is an indicator-does it have a large head to body ratio? Not always true but a good one.

Facial scarring-yellow regions from regrown scales.

Really just experience gives... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (dhaisten) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6834 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:31:38 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6833/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6833 feeds@yuku.com (Brian68803) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6833 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:19:40 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6832/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6832 I thought one island was open for export but I am not certain.

Can't tell you the exact Indonesian law. I have heard only farmed animals are legal tender.
I have read that persons try to pretend animals are farmed over there to sell poached critters.

Natives are paid cents to grab the animals-usually lashed to a stick-or not.
The WC that come in looking really bad may have been lashed to a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (dhaisten) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6832 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:22:37 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6831/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6831 feeds@yuku.com (Kim Burge) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6831 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:25:30 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6830/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6830
cost from vet $900+ ad that to the cost of the snakes and add the disapointment + heartache and so on.............yes you get the picture.

captive bred US or Canada or UK or Europe is the way to go ]]> feeds@yuku.com (slippery42) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6830 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:26:06 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6829/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6829
OT
My white lipped python was WC, and was near death when it was brought in. He was my second snake so I... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (dphhchondro) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6829 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:25:56 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/reply/6828/t/wc-vs-cb.html#reply-6828
In my experience stick to captive bred where you can check the source.

If you are in the US or Canada there are plenty of great breeders to buy from and get bona fide CB.

There are plenty of cheaper captive farmed animals around and you have no way of knowing their background.

Here in the UK I suspect many of the captive farmed... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (slippery42) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/sreply/6828 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:21:28 GMT http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/1894/t/wc-vs-cb.html feeds@yuku.com (Brian68803) http://chondroforum.yuku.com/topic/1894 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:54:21 GMT